נושא בדף שיחת משתמש:Matanya

תודה.

לא קיבלתי.

שלחתי מחדש.

אין כזה.

יכול להיות שיש לך בעיה במייל? או בספאם?

מתניה?

אני מקבל בסדר מכל אחד אחר. אתה בג'ימייל ?

כן. ושלחתי כמה מכתבים, גם דרך וויקיפדיה, וגם ישר לכתובת שלך.

מוזר, תפוס אותי בIRC.

תבדוק את הגדרות המייל שלך, בלי קשר לוויקיפדיה. והספאם. ב-IRC זה עוד יותר גרוע. כל הקטע שרציתי במייל הוא כי זה ארוך מדי. אבל אין ברירה, אכתוב כאן בקיצור. יש מצב שתריץ בשבילי 1200 פעמים סקריפט ב-pywikibot שערן המליץ עליו? אני יכול לכתוב קובץ הרצה ב-tcsh, נגיד, כדי שתוכל רק ללחוץ על אנטר והוא יעשה את כל הסיבובים. תודה מראש.

כן, ואין צורך שתכתוב tsch.

תודה רבה! אבל בלי זה תצטרך להקליד 1200 שורות קוד. למה?

כי אני מסוגל לכתוב בבאש.

לא הבנתי למה אתה רוצה לכתוב 1200 שורות בבאש, אבל בוא נניח לזה בינתיים. אני מדבר על הצורך במחיקת 1500 דפי הפניה ממרחב שיחה למרחב שיחה. ל-1200 מדפי ההפניה יש דפים מקושרים אליהם, וצריך לתקן את הדפים הללו להיות מקושרים ליעד ההפניה. קיים בשביל זה סקריפט . יש מצב שתגיד לי מה הפרמטרים של שורת הפקודה? תודה.

fixing_redirects.py -help יענה על זה

בדיוק. ומכיוון שאין לי את זה ואין אפשרות להתקין, ביקשתי את עזרתך. תודה.

$ python pwb.py scripts/fixing_redirects.py -help Correct all redirect links in featured pages or only one page of each wiki. Can be using with: -catfilter Filter the page generator to only yield pages in the specified category. See -cat for argument format. -cat Work on all pages which are in a specific category. Argument can also be given as "-cat:categoryname" or as "-cat:categoryname|fromtitle" (using # instead of | is also allowed in this one and the following) -catr Like -cat, but also recursively includes pages in subcategories, sub-subcategories etc. of the given category. Argument can also be given as "-catr:categoryname" or as "-catr:categoryname|fromtitle". -subcats Work on all subcategories of a specific category. Argument can also be given as "-subcats:categoryname" or as "-subcats:categoryname|fromtitle". -subcatsr Like -subcats, but also includes sub-subcategories etc. of the given category. Argument can also be given as "-subcatsr:categoryname" or as "-subcatsr:categoryname|fromtitle". -uncat Work on all pages which are not categorised. -uncatcat Work on all categories which are not categorised. -uncatfiles Work on all files which are not categorised. -file Read a list of pages to treat from the named text file. Page titles in the file may be either enclosed with [[brackets]], or be separated by new lines. Argument can also be given as "-file:filename". -filelinks Work on all pages that use a certain image/media file. Argument can also be given as "-filelinks:filename". -search Work on all pages that are found in a MediaWiki search across all namespaces. -logevents Work on articles that were on a specified Special:Log. The value may be a comma separated list of three values: logevent,username,total To use the default value, use an empty string. You have options for every type of logs given by the log event parameter which could be one of the following: block, protect, rights, delete, upload, move, import, patrol, merge, suppress, review, stable, gblblock, renameuser, globalauth, gblrights, abusefilter, newusers It uses the default number of pages 10. Examples: -logevents:move gives pages from move log (usually redirects) -logevents:delete,,20 gives 20 pages from deletion log -logevents:protect,Usr gives pages from protect by user Usr -logevents:patrol,Usr,20 gives 20 patroled pages by user Usr In some cases it must be written as -logevents:"patrol,Usr,20" -namespaces Filter the page generator to only yield pages in the -namespace specified namespaces. Separate multiple namespace -ns numbers or names with commas. Examples: -ns:0,2,4 -ns:Help,MediaWiki If used with -newpages/-random/-randomredirect, -namespace/ns must be provided before -newpages/-random/-randomredirect. If used with -recentchanges, efficiency is improved if -namespace/ns is provided before -recentchanges. If used with -start, -namespace/ns shall contain only one value. -interwiki Work on the given page and all equivalent pages in other languages. This can, for example, be used to fight multi-site spamming. Attention: this will cause the bot to modify pages on several wiki sites, this is not well tested, so check your edits! -limit:n When used with any other argument that specifies a set of pages, work on no more than n pages in total. -links Work on all pages that are linked from a certain page. Argument can also be given as "-links:linkingpagetitle". -liverecentchanges Work on pages from the live recent changes feed. If used as -liverecentchanges:x, work on x recent changes. -imagesused Work on all images that contained on a certain page. Argument can also be given as "-imagesused:linkingpagetitle". -newimages Work on the 100 newest images. If given as -newimages:x, will work on the x newest images. -newpages Work on the most recent new pages. If given as -newpages:x, will work on the x newest pages. -recentchanges Work on the pages with the most recent changes. If given as -recentchanges:x, will work on the x most recently changed pages. -unconnectedpages Work on the most recent unconnected pages to the Wikibase repository. Given as -unconnectedpages:x, will work on the x most recent unconnected pages. -ref Work on all pages that link to a certain page. Argument can also be given as "-ref:referredpagetitle". -start Specifies that the robot should go alphabetically through all pages on the home wiki, starting at the named page. Argument can also be given as "-start:pagetitle". You can also include a namespace. For example, "-start:Template:!" will make the bot work on all pages in the template namespace. default value is start:! -prefixindex Work on pages commencing with a common prefix. -step:n When used with any other argument that specifies a set of pages, only retrieve n pages at a time from the wiki server. -subpage:n Filters pages to only those that have depth n i.e. a depth of 0 filters out all pages that are subpages, and a depth of 1 filters out all pages that are subpages of subpages. -titleregex A regular expression that needs to match the article title otherwise the page won't be returned. Multiple -titleregex:regexpr can be provided and the page will be returned if title is matched by any of the regexpr provided. Case insensitive regular expressions will be used and dot matches any character. -transcludes Work on all pages that use a certain template. Argument can also be given as "-transcludes:Title". -unusedfiles Work on all description pages of images/media files that are not used anywhere. Argument can be given as "-unusedfiles:n" where n is the maximum number of articles to work on. -lonelypages Work on all articles that are not linked from any other article. Argument can be given as "-lonelypages:n" where n is the maximum number of articles to work on. -unwatched Work on all articles that are not watched by anyone. Argument can be given as "-unwatched:n" where n is the maximum number of articles to work on. -usercontribs Work on all articles that were edited by a certain user. (Example : -usercontribs:DumZiBoT) -weblink Work on all articles that contain an external link to a given URL; may be given as "-weblink:url" -withoutinterwiki Work on all pages that don't have interlanguage links. Argument can be given as "-withoutinterwiki:n" where n is the total to fetch. -mysqlquery Takes a Mysql query string like "SELECT page_namespace, page_title, FROM page WHERE page_namespace = 0" and works on the resulting pages. -wikidataquery Takes a WikidataQuery query string like claim[31:12280] and works on the resulting pages. -searchitem Takes a search string and works on Wikibase pages that contain it. Argument can be given as "-searchitem:text", where text is the string to look for, or "-searchitem:lang:text", where lang is the langauge to search items in. -random Work on random pages returned by [[מיוחד:Random|Special:Random]]. Can also be given as "-random:n" where n is the number of pages to be returned, otherwise the default is 10 pages. -randomredirect Work on random redirect pages returned by [[מיוחד:RandomRedirect|Special:RandomRedirect]]. Can also be given as "-randomredirect:n" where n is the number of pages to be returned, else 10 pages are returned. -untagged Work on image pages that don't have any license template on a site given in the format "<language>.<project>.org, e.g. "ja.wikipedia.org" or "commons.wikimedia.org". Using an external Toolserver tool. -google Work on all pages that are found in a Google search. You need a Google Web API license key. Note that Google doesn't give out license keys anymore. See google_key in config.py for instructions. Argument can also be given as "-google:searchstring". -yahoo Work on all pages that are found in a Yahoo search. Depends on python module pYsearch. See yahoo_appid in config.py for instructions. -page Work on a single page. Argument can also be given as "-page:pagetitle", and supplied multiple times for multiple pages. -grep A regular expression that needs to match the article otherwise the page won't be returned. Multiple -grep:regexpr can be provided and the page will be returned if content is matched by any of the regexpr provided. Case insensitive regular expressions will be used and dot matches any character, including a newline. -ql Filter pages based on page quality. This is only applicable if contentmodel equals 'proofread-page', otherwise has no effects. Valid values are in range 0-4. Multiple values can be comma-separated. -onlyif A claim the page needs to contain, otherwise the item won't be returned. The format is property=value,qualifier=value. Multiple (or none) qualifiers can be passed, separated by commas. Examples: P1=Q2 (property P1 must contain value Q2), P3=Q4,P5=Q6,P6=Q7 (property P3 with value Q4 and qualifiers: P5 with value Q6 and P6 with value Q7). Value can be page ID, coordinate in format: latitude,longitude[,precision] (all values are in decimal degrees), year, or plain string. The argument can be provided multiple times and the item page will be returned only if all of the claims are present. Argument can be also given as "-onlyif:expression". -onlyifnot A claim the page must not contain, otherwise the item won't be returned. For usage and examples, see -onlyif above. -intersect Work on the intersection of all the provided generators. -featured Run over featured pages (for some wikimedia wikis only) Run fixing_redirects.py -help to see all the command-line options -file, -ref, -links, ... Global arguments available for all bots: -dir:PATH Read the bot's configuration data from directory given by PATH, instead of from the default directory. -lang:xx Set the language of the wiki you want to work on, overriding the configuration in user-config.py. xx should be the language code. -family:xyz Set the family of the wiki you want to work on, e.g. wikipedia, wiktionary, wikitravel, ... This will override the configuration in user-config.py. -user:xyz Log in as user 'xyz' instead of the default username. -daemonize:xyz Immediately return control to the terminal and redirect stdout and stderr to file xyz. (only use for bots that require no input from stdin). -help Show this help text. -log Enable the log file, using the default filename 'fixing_redirects-bot.log' Logs will be stored in the logs subdirectory. -log:xyz Enable the log file, using 'xyz' as the filename. -nolog Disable the log file (if it is enabled by default). -maxlag Sets a new maxlag parameter to a number of seconds. Defer bot edits during periods of database server lag. Default is set by config.py -putthrottle:n Set the minimum time (in seconds) the bot will wait between -pt:n saving pages. -put_throttle:n -debug:item Enable the log file and include extensive debugging data -debug for component "item" (for all components if the second form is used). -verbose Have the bot provide additional console output that may be -v useful in debugging. -cosmeticchanges Toggles the cosmetic_changes setting made in config.py or -cc user_config.py to its inverse and overrules it. All other settings and restrictions are untouched. -simulate Disables writing to the server. Useful for testing and debugging of new code (if given, doesn't do any real changes, but only shows what would have been changed). -<config var>:n You may use all given numeric config variables as option and modify it with command line.

תודה רבה לך! אבל יש לי הרגשה שזה לא הכלי הנכון, לאחר שקראתי. אני אדבר עם ערן.

יגאל, אני חושב שהסקריפט יתאים לתיקון הפניות אבל הכי טוב שתבדוק אותו על דף אחד בצורה מבוקרת ועוד יותר טוב אם תרפרף על הקוד - תעבור על הפונקציה treat_page בלינק שקישרת אליו. הקוד בסך הכל צריך להיות קריא גם למי שלא מדבר פייתון

אני אנסה, ערן, אבל לפני זה יש לי שאלה אליך. ממה שקראתי כאן אני מאמין שאם ניתן לזה שם של דף, זה יתקן את כל הקישורים להפניות בדף הזה, ולא רק אלו, שאנו צריכים - דבר שהזהרת אותי ממנו. אני טועה?

נכון. זה לא מתקן הפניה ספציפית

אז אם כך, ערן, זה אומר שזה לא מסוכן מבחינתך?

זה כן קצת מסוכן כי אם מישהו כתב בדף שיחה וקישר להשטחים הכבושים יתחלף לו לקישור ליהודה ושומרון וחבל עזה. אם מודעים לבעיות שזה יכול ליצור ובודקים שזה לא קורה אז אין בעיה להריץ, אבל בזהירות.

אני מניח שאלו יהיו כ-10,000 עריכות, ערן. אין שום אפשרות לבדוק ידנית את כולם, לא?

כן אי אפשר לבדוק את כולן בצורה ידנית

אז מה עושים, ערן? להתעלם מהסכנה או לא להריץ את זה?

כן עדיף לא להריץ את זה

הבנתי. תודה, אחשוב על הכלי השני שהצעת. תודה רבה לך, מתניה, אבל נראה שזה לא הולך.