שיחה:האחווה הפרה-רפאליטית

תרגומי הציטוטים[עריכת קוד מקור]

תגובה אחרונה: לפני 14 שניםתגובה אחתאדם אחד בשיחה

כיוון שאני לא מתרגם במקצועי, מן ההגינות אולי להביא את הציטוטים באנגלית, כי סביר שיש לי כמה טעויות או אי-הבנות וכו'. הבבליוגרפיה היא ב"הערות שוליים" בדף הערך:

לציטוטים יש ערך אינפורמטיבי רב ולכן הם חשובים, לדעתי. הציטוט של דיקנס משעשע מאוד ו"ראוי" לתרגום.

הציטוט מהטיימס:

"These young artists have unfortunately become notorious by addicting themselves to an antiquated style, false perspective, and crude colour of remote antiquity. We want not to see...faces bloated into apoplexy, or extenuated into skeletons; colour borrowed from the jars in a druggist's shop, and expression forced into caricature. That morbid infatuation which sacrifices truth, beauty, and genuine feeling to mere eccentricity deserves no quarter at the hands of the public."

הציטוט של דיקנס:

"…In the foreground of that carpenter's shop is a hideous, wry-necked, blubbering, red-headed boy, in a bed-gown; who appears to have received a poke in the hand, from the stick of another boy with whom he has been playing in an adjacent gutter, and to be holding it up for the contemplation of a kneeling woman, so horrible in her ugliness, that (supposing it were possible for any human creature to exist for a moment with a dislocated throat) she would stand out from the rest of the company as a Monster, in the vilest cabaret in France, or the lowest ginshop in England. Two almost naked carpenters, master and journeyman, worthy companions of this agreeable female, are working at their trade; a boy, with some flavour of humanity in him, is entering with a vessel of water; and nobody is paying any attention to a snuffy old woman who seems to have mistaken that shop for the tobacconist's next door, and to be hopelessly waiting at the counter to be served with half an ounce of her favourite mixture. Wherever it is possible to express ugliness of feature, limb, or attitude, you have it expressed."

הציטוט של ראסקין:

"Pre-Raphaelitism has but one principle, that of absolute, uncompromising truth in all that it does, obtained by working everything, down to the most minute detail, from nature, and from nature only. Every Pre-Raphaelite landscape background is painted to the last touch, in the open air, from the thing itself. Every Pre-Raphaelite figure, however studied in expression, is a true portrait of some living person. Every minute accessory is painted in the same manner. And one of the chief reasons for the violent opposition with which the school has been attacked by other artists, is the enormous cost of care and labor which such a system demands from those who adopt it, in contradistinction to the present slovenly and imperfect style... ...You perceive that the principal resistance they have to make is to that spurious beauty, whose attractiveness had tempted men to forget, or to despise, the more noble quality of sincerity: and in order at once to put them beyond the power of temptation from this beauty, they are, as a body, characterized by a total absence of sensibility to the ordinary and popular forms of artistic gracefulness"

תודה. חגי - שיחה 15:35, 5 באוקטובר 2009 (IDT).תגובה

שם הערך[עריכת קוד מקור]

תגובה אחרונה: לפני 14 שנים2 תגובות2 אנשים בשיחה

האם יש לשנות את השם "האחווה הפרה-רפאליטית" לשם אחר (כמו "פרה-רפאליטים")? בחרתי בו בגלל השם באנגלית "Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood". חגי - שיחה 18:54, 5 באוקטובר 2009 (IDT).תגובה

נראה לי, שכדאי לשנות את השם ל"פרה-רפאליטים" כדי להקל על המחפשים, ולהוסיף את השם "האחווה הפרה-רפאליטית" מיד ךאלר זאת בפתיח.שלומית קדם - שיחה 13:02, 6 באוקטובר 2009 (IST)תגובה